Episode 35

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11th Nov 2024

Zach Bryan vs Bri, Barstool, & Battlestar Galactica

The podcast delves into the unfolding drama between country music artist Zach Bryan and social media influencer Brianna Chickenfry, exploring the intricacies of their public fallout. The conversation begins with an analysis of Bryan's controversial tweet, where he labels Brianna a 'clout chaser,' igniting a firestorm of reactions from fans and followers alike. As the discussion evolves, the hosts dissect the nuances of social media interactions, emphasizing how quickly personal disputes can escalate into public feuds, drawing in a diverse audience eager for every detail. Michael and Jackson reflect on the implications of such drama in the landscape of celebrity culture, considering how it affects the individuals involved and their respective fan bases.

Throughout the episode, the hosts navigate through the emotional responses elicited by the feud, particularly focusing on Brianna's reaction to Bryan's accusations. They highlight her defense against the claims made, emphasizing her stance of feeling unjustly attacked and her call for accountability in the relationship dynamic. The conversation takes a deeper turn as they discuss the broader theme of emotional well-being in the face of public scrutiny, exploring how social media can amplify personal conflicts and impact mental health.

By the end of the episode, listeners are left contemplating the lessons learned from this public spat. The hosts advocate for open dialogue and understanding, suggesting that both parties could benefit from a conversation to clear the air. With a blend of playful banter and insightful commentary, the episode serves as a reminder of the complexities inherent in modern relationships, especially when they play out under the watchful eyes of social media users. The hosts conclude by inviting both Zach and Brianna to engage with them on their platform, emphasizing that while they stand with Brianna, they remain open to hearing Zach's side of the story, presenting an opportunity for resolution amidst the chaos.

Takeaways:

  • The ongoing drama between Zach Bryan and Brianna Chickenfry has captivated audiences online.
  • Zach Bryan's emotional abuse allegations against him reveal concerning patterns in celebrity relationships.
  • Brianna Chickenfry's response to Zach's accusations highlights the power dynamics in their conflict.
  • The public feud underscores how social media can amplify personal disagreements between public figures.
  • Zach Bryan's use of NDAs raises questions about accountability in celebrity relationships.
  • The podcast's hosts advocate for open discussions on serious issues affecting women in relationships.

Companies mentioned in this episode:

  • Barstool - Smallest man (diss track) - https://youtu.be/KTe4kdsxVco?si=3oW4wryFr-L1lfAp
Transcript
Jackson:

He's taking a step away from music. I will offer the chance for him to come on to our podcast and explain. Just explain. Just explain his side. I haven't heard anything from him.

If he wants to come on and explain, and he can explain all of the NDAs that he send out before. That's the. That's the stipulation. He has to explain every NDA that he sent out to. Not. I don't care about, like. Like, people that worked with him.

I mean, I do. If they were. If it was bad enough, but I mean, like. Like the NDAs of women he dated. I also will open it up to.

And I bet Brianna Chicken Fry is gonna do this. So, like, this isn't as important for those women, because I bet she'll give them a platform or at least help in that, you know, area.

Sonny:

She can't, because they have NDAs. But I see what you're saying, but yes.

Jackson:

Well, if you want to come break your NDA on this podcast, then come on. Hey, buddy.

Sonny:

How goes it?

Jackson:

Oh, it's going.

Sonny:

Have you. Have you seen what's going on with ZB Ambri?

Jackson:

I have. For those who don't know what's going on, I actually have brought a video today.

Sonny:

Perfect.

Jackson:

To explain it, you know, better than we would. And then we'll talk about it afterwards. But I mean, like, yeah, we'll try.

Sonny:

To explain it after someone else explains it better than we will.

Jackson:

Yeah, so what? We'll. We'll talk about it afterwards.

Speaker C:

So here, Deb, Zach Bryan's ex from right before he started dating Brianna Chicken Fry, has entered the chat. You guys, she posted something on social media last night. You know, the same night that the BFF dropped the Zach Brian breakup podcast.

And if you don't think her post is related to that, then you are definitely wrong, because it's as clear as day. Let's get into it. So Deb dated Zach Bryan right before he started dating Brianna Chicken Fry.

And when I say right before, I mean, they broke up maybe a month before him and Briana started dating. Some people think the timeline is even closer. After the breakup, we heard nothing from Deb about Zac Brian. And now we might know why.

Because Brianna Chicken Fry was offered $12 million to sign an NDA so that she couldn't talk about her relationship with Zach. Brya. She alluded to the fact that Zach Brian's previous exes were offered the same thing and took the money.

So even though Deb might not legally be able to talk about what happened between her And Zach, she can post things like this.

Sonny:

I didn't get the lyrics on that last part, but she was drinking and she looked happy, so.

Jackson:

Yeah, so what? From my understanding and like, a lot of this. Let me see if I can also pull up, like, an article or something. Brown Chicken Fry.

Sonny:

I got, like, I have no idea on how she got that, like, the nickname Chicken Fry.

Jackson:

We can figure that out as we go. What's going on? Okay, here. This is the cut. So weeks after their contentious breakup, Brianna Chicken Fry. So Brianna La Paglia is.

Is like her, like, legal name. Chicken Fry, I'm gonna tell you guys right now. Hold on to your seats. Is not her legal name. Sounds like I would.

Sonny:

Brianna, meet her dad, Laglia.

Jackson:

Yeah, just he's got ties to the. Yeah, he has ties to the crime families in New York, so I believe she's from Boston.

Sonny:

From Boston.

Jackson:

She's from Boston. You packed the kind of yard, you know what I'm saying?

So she's accused country singer Zack Bryant of emotional abuse throughout their year long relationship on Thursday's episode. Okay, before we go any further with this, I want you. I'd like to think about this. This is a year long relationship.

They were together for a singular year. The. What if I was with somebody for a year and granted I've. I've moved in with somebody under a year before, and obviously I'm not with that person.

I don't recommend that to anybody, like, moving in prior to being together for a year. It works for some. But I do think it's an expedited. Like, if you guys are gonna break up at some point, that is an expedited route to break up.

Because you, like, figure out, like, oh, living with this person's like a nightmare. Like, that's all that happens quicker.

Sonny:

Yeah, I mean, you get to know them a lot quicker.

Jackson:

A lot, a lot quicker. You're like, oh, this person just, like, wears the same socks for like a month. The.

They like, yeah, like, like, are you the kind of person that just grabs something out of the closet? Or you kind of, like, grab something off the floor and smells it first before you, like, wear it out? And, like, you know what I mean?

And, like, and those are the questions that we are here to find out for you.

Sonny:

Amen. Yep.

Jackson:

So the. We should do that.

We should do an episode where, like, people can, like, submit, like, their significant other to be interviewed on this podcast just to find out, like, all their gross habits. Like, before moving in. Like, we should do an interview process and then we can Release the episodes.

Comment below if you guys think that would be a good idea or fun. If you would like that. This is on YouTube. I'm assuming you're watching this, so go ahead and comment below.

Be like, that would be so sick if you guys did that. Oh my God, I would like lose my mind. Anyway, so back to the, back to the Zach Bryant thing. So she accused Brianna Chicken Fry is what she's known as.

I'm going to refer to her as that for the rest of the episode. Not her Mrs. Chicken Finger. Ms. Miz. They're not married. Right. Has accused Mr. Brian of emotional abuse throughout their year long relationship.

Again, I do feel like celebrities do this a lot where like they'll like start dating and then within three months they're living together and then because I mean, they have like just crazy amounts of money also. So like they're like it. I'll like divorce and buy my own. Like just move out and buy. You know what I mean?

Like, it's so much cheaper for them in like, good. The grand scheme of things.

They're like, what's it gonna cost, like 500,000 to like do all the things that like, just recreate my life somewhere else? Yep, fine, whatever. Like, here's a check.

Sonny:

Yep.

Jackson:

So I think that's insane already, love. I would love to be at that point in my life where I could just move in with people willy nilly and be like, fuck them. I hate this person.

Break the lease. Pay the fucking eight grand to break a lease and like all that shit.

So, okay, so on this Thursday's episode of the BFF's podcast, the Barstool, podcasters told co hosts Dave Portnoy and Josh Richards that she had endured the hardest year of her life dealing with the abuse from this dude. She then allegedly, she.

She then alleged that he had a habit of hand handing out NDAs to the women he dated, claiming he offered her $12 million and a new York apartment in exchange for her silence about their relationship. I'm still scared right now because I'm scared of him, she said. My brain's rewired and I'm scared to make him matt.

That's terrifying because, yeah, if you're not, if you don't like. I was. I brought this up to a friend of mine the other day and she was like, I don't know who Zach Bryant is.

So if you don't know who Zach Bryant is, he was pretty much on track to be the greatest, one of the greatest, like songwriters and country music artists, like of the generation.

Sonny:

Yeah, I would say he.

Jackson:

His lyrics. He's a.

Sonny:

For our generation.

Jackson:

Yes.

Sonny:

He was Mount Rushmore of alive songwriters. Like, he's.

Jackson:

Yeah, his lyrics are just good.

Sonny:

I mean, in his. His story was authentic. You know, he's in the Navy. The. Oh, my God, his YouTube song went viral. The first one. Holy crap. I can't think. I.

I can't believe I can't remember it.

Jackson:

But, like, pause real quick and think about something with the. He's so great, so talented. I don't want to say great.

I don't want to say, like, great, because, like, obviously this is a really shitty thing that he did. He was allegedly emotional. I don't know his side. I don't think he's spoken up about it, but he is a.

So, like, if he's that great of a singer, songwriter, lyricist, he's think about the, like Albert Einstein's of the world or like, even Elon Musk's. Elon Musk gets a lot of backlash for things he does. Zuckerberg is like a fucking robot. Like, he's a weird dude.

Like, these, like, these people who operate at a different level are weird fucking people when you break it down, you know, I mean, like, they're fucking weirdos. They're into weird shit like that. I mean, like, I don't know, like, their sex lives. But I'm like, you know, like.

Like, we had talked about this previously, like, people who are, like, who hold, like, high positions of power and companies, like, love, like, the crazy in the bedroom. You know what I mean? Because they're like. They're making decisions all day.

They have the power in every other aspect of their life that they're like, I want to be, like, fucking, like, tied down and, like, have someone put cigarettes out on my chest and piss on me. And you're like, oh, okay. Like. Like, whatever. Your thing is. Cool.

Sonny:

Yeah, yeah.

Jackson:

Like, don't want to yuck anyone's yum. If that's what you're into, that's fine. But I'm just saying, like, they're like, there's a.

They obviously aren't going to be easy to work with people or easy to coexist with. So I'm not completely. I'm not giving him an out for his behavior, for his emotional abuse.

But I am just saying, like, if someone is operating at this level, at that level, then it's obviously going to be a little bit harder to deal with them. Like, yeah, maybe they're not. Like, you know, maybe they're on the spectrum. Maybe they're, you know, whatever. It's.

They're so like, if they're on the spectrum, they're like social cues and the things that they pick up on are going to be harder to like, they can't adapt as easily. You know what I mean? So, I mean, it sounds. It sounds like he. They make him really sound like a piece of. In this article. And I don't know.

I don't know him personally. I don't know his side of the story. We. I mean, personally, I would say I'm pro her in this whole thing.

Sonny:

You're team Brie.

Jackson:

I'm Team Brie, yeah. I mean, I really do like her. And I loved his music, by the way, but I have not streamed him in a minute since I've heard about this.

And I don't, like, I. I don't support anything R. Kelly did, but I'll still listen to Ignition remakes every once in a while. You know what I'm saying?

Sonny:

Isn't that like the only R. Kelly song you do listen to if it does come up?

Jackson:

Yeah. And you're like. You're like, I know he peed on some kids. But, like, like, this song is really good.

Sonny:

I think. I think what you're trying to say about, like, his brain and who he is at that level is definitely, like, on the right track.

Like, you know, someone is so successful. Like, that's why people say, like, Tom Brady is weird because he's such an.

He's kind of a normal human, but his competitiveness is what drives him absolutely apart. I think I was a Zach Bryan, Stan. I thought, like I said great, like, greatest songwriter of our generation. Like, wanted.

He was like my number one person I wanted to interview so bad. He had a podcast coming out and then I got taken down because of copyright.

Was just super curious and, like, thought, you know, kind of the American dream, like, served the military of video went viral of. Of his song. I can't believe. I can't. It's literally like his whatever. What the.

Jackson:

Is something in the orange?

Sonny:

No, I have. I have fast cars stuck in my head, and it's not fast.

Jackson:

Oh, hey, driver.

Sonny:

No, not hay driver.

Jackson:

I want to say. Is it motorcycle?

Sonny:

Not motorcycle. Drive by.

Jackson:

Okay. Oh, that's what I was going to say. I was like. I was like, am I about to up the name of the song?

Sonny:

That's what I'm saying, right?

Jackson:

I do. I will say, like, the song hey Driver is pretty solid. I mean, his music is good. That's what pisses me off about this whole thing.

I hate when, like, this happens and then I'm like, oh, you know, another good one. Another. I mean, obviously I don't know if he's a good person.

Sonny:

He is. He is a amazing songwriter. I've. I haven't been to his concerts. I've heard he's an amazing performer.

However, before all this shit went down, I know people in the industry and I've heard from people in the industry. It's more specifically when he performed out of Chicago or in Chicago at a festival that we know and love. His.

His cooperation, his attitude, band drama. Not good. Not good.

Jackson:

Like, but I will say, how long until we forgive people? You know what I mean? That's like, I don't want to ruin this guy's career because he made it.

Because, like, I also do think when you're in a relationship, some. Heading south.

Sonny:

Heading south.

Jackson:

Really quick. Can I finish my thought?

Sonny:

Yep.

Jackson:

So I do think when. When you date someone and like, you have a really shitty relationship with somebody, like, sometimes that person brings that out of you.

You know what I mean?

Like, sometimes it's that mix of people, like, those two people together, it's like, yeah, like, you can love that person, but, like, they bring a shittiness out of you that you had never seen before. And I mean, not that he. I mean, it sounds like he's sending out NDAs to a lot of ladies.

Sonny:

Which is a red flag immediately.

Jackson:

Huge red flag.

Sonny:

Yeah.

Jackson:

But on the flip side of that, you're like, okay, I mean, if it was like a one off, like, he was really shitty in this one relationship, like, like a Chris Brown, Rihanna thing where, like, I don't know if I. I mean, like. And again, I'm speaking out of turn.

I haven't done a bunch of Chris Brown research, but I don't think he was hitting other women the way he hit Rihanna. I don't think. I don't. I have not seen a report of him being, like, a woman abuser since then.

So again, it can just be like, it can be like, like the Tommy Lee. I don't know if you saw the Tommy Lee and Pamela Anderson, like, biopic, like, series thing on Hulu.

They had like, you know, it was like a retelling of the story.

And like, there's the scene where she's pregnant and he pushes her and like, but like, they were also on a ton of drugs and partying and like, it was like this passion of like, something that. Actually this is a big gripe of mine.

I Feel like MGK and Megan Fox try to recreate that and they like idolize that kind of like love, which I mean like in the Weren't they.

Sonny:

All sound like satanic worship.

Jackson:

And though they're in like some weird because like they have like the, like the wedding rings that don't come off or whatever because they got like the thorns in them and they.

Sonny:

Yeah, they also broke out though, right?

Jackson:

Are they. Yeah, they're done now, right?

Sonny:

Yeah.

Jackson:

So they obviously probably had to go to like a blacksmith and have that like, like sawed off of their fingers because it was like it had like things so like you couldn't pull it off. Like, it was like things that needles that would stick into your finger.

Sonny:

People are weird.

Jackson:

That's crazy, dude.

Sonny:

People are weird.

Jackson:

But yeah, so I mean, of course they broke up. They like literally were like the modern day Pamela Anderson, Tommy Lee, but.

Sonny:

All right, back to Zach and Yes.

Jackson:

Yeah, but I'm saying. So yes, there is a fine line between like, okay, does this. Is this a one off thing?

Like where it was like, okay, they had a bad experience together and like, they just weren't a good match and like did go sideways. But like, it. It was like a one time thing. But this kind of sounds like it wasn't a one time thing. And that's super upsetting.

Sonny:

Did you watch her?

Jackson:

I didn't watch the fall.

Sonny:

Okay.

Jackson:

You want me to see if I can find it?

Sonny:

No, I. I listened to it. I listen it.

I listened to it with Logan and there was just so many instances as to like, she was like, yeah, he broke my phone like multiple times. Or she said she was on his tour bus and like just trying to take a nap or something.

And he would walk in videotaping her and be like, your friends, your friends always videotape me when I'm around. So how does it make you feel? And like, just like petty, like weird petty. That is just obviously, obviously bad, obviously awful.

But also just like, what are you trying to do in that moment? And like, obviously at that point, he's so emotional he can't think straight. I'm not making excuses for him.

And I think it was obviously stupid to do, but like, looking back at it, it's like, what are you trying to prove? Or like, what are you trying to do there? And then also the fact that he broke her phone or smash it once even. It was just too much like if.

If I'm in a relationship and I have to get my point across by breaking anything or doing literally anything physical that might resolve in damage to a human or a single object. That's a bad relationship, and you need to get out, right? Like, yeah, it is.

Jackson:

Just leave if you're not having a good time. Just leave.

Sonny:

And, yeah, so I'm. I. Like, I said I was a Z, Brian Stanley. Even though I can think of the freaking song that made him huge.

Jackson:

I'm a huge fan of, like. I mean, my last relationship ended around the time, like, something in the orange was big and, like, that was coming out. So I'm like.

So I'm like, that was like. Those were, like, songs that, like, would get me through a breakup. You know what I mean? Like, that would, you know, like, just.

I felt like, you know, oh. I'm like, oh, like, this guy gets it. You know? Like, he's like, he gets me. He sees me. You know, like, that kind of.

That, like, makes people resonate with a song.

Sonny:

Yeah.

Jackson:

Like, I was like, he was just coming out with banger after. I mean, banger, I use in a very specific term in this. You know what I mean? Because, like, they weren't bangers, but they were like, it hit. It hit.

They hit. And it's so sad when you see someone, like, fall from greatness like this.

But, I mean, obviously, you know, I'm not saying, like, have sympathy with him, but again, like, how long do we wait until we go? Let's not ruin this guy's career over this. But I'll. That's. You know what I mean? Like. Like, what do we want?

Do we want society to see him bagging groceries for the rest of his life? Or.

Sonny:

I mean, he said he was done touring and he's gonna go to school in college or in Paris, which is such a.

Jackson:

Like, some. I saw someone tweet that, and he was. They were like, oh, he was going for his, like, masters or whatever. Or, like, going to, like.

And they were like, oh, he's just like us. Instead of. Instead of dealing with your problems, you just go back to school. You're like, I'll just go. I'll just get my masters. It's fine.

It's like, yeah, I'm not gonna deal with anything that's, like, actually pressing.

Sonny:

So. But, like, on, like, honest question. Honest question. Okay, so Zach is allegedly, obviously, have to say allegedly now, these days to everything.

Zach is allegedly under scrutiny. Scrutiny for hopefully just verbal abuse of Brie. Hopefully it didn't escalate anything physical, but under scrutiny of this.

Jackson:

I mean, if he was breaking your phone, that is to some extent physical.

Sonny:

I Know, like, that's. But that's what.

Jackson:

Anyways me about the whole thing.

Sonny:

If, if he. If everything she said was true and all this is obviously alleged. Okay. This is obviously a big stain on who he is as a human. Who he is as a person.

Jackson:

Right.

Sonny:

However, Morgan Wallen took a break because he was caught in a video. Video recording dropping the N word as clear as day. And you know what that did for.

Jackson:

His career, like, launched his career.

Sonny:

It kind of helped it, like, because he took a break from music and then we dropped that first return album or whatever. It. You know, he's. He's literally been on the moon since.

So I'm not saying would you rather your artist drop the N word and insult a human or would you rather your artist be verbally abusive to women or at least this woman in this circumstance? And like, it's such a obviously bad, bad bubbles to live in. Yeah, but it's like Juan came back from that and like, that's a terrible thing.

Like, that is a bad thing.

Jackson:

Okay. And like, again, the Morgan Wallen thing happened a while ago. Right. So he had three or four words.

But didn't he call his, like, white friend the N word?

Sonny:

I don't know. I. I just remember the video.

Jackson:

Like, I don't. Yeah. But I just remember because it was more him. You didn't really see who he was saying it about or like.

But like, I don't think he didn't use it in like, a really hateful way. It was the fact that he used it and like, he shouldn't have used it. I completely agree that he shouldn't have used it.

But it's also like, I don't think he's a racist. I think he just had a poor choice of words in what he was saying.

Sonny:

See, so. But like now. But I feel like for that side of Zach, Bryan is. I don't. Oh. Like, I don't think he's a bad person. He was just in a bad relationship.

And I think other. A lot of humanity be like, no, him. He's a bad person. Like, he did this, that. And it doesn't help. It does not help.

Zach and his team baton an entire media empire of barstool is also after him.

Jackson:

Like, Portnoy is after him dragging his name right now.

Sonny:

Portnoy has that bottle of champagne, you know, was ZB on it? And it's just like. And that's not going to go away. Like, that is not just going to fade.

That's just going to keep going and going and Going, Wow, that's. I think that's actually one of his songs.

Jackson:

Going, going, going.

Sonny:

I might be a thing out of the wrong artist.

Jackson:

Well, going. Gone is Luke Combs.

Sonny:

Okay, maybe. All right. I confuse those. Maybe I. I like and. Okay. I don't care who you are. I don't care what you believe in. I don't care where you put your agenda.

Celia, if you have your comments turned off and on. On your Instagram, you're. What are you trying to hide? You're hiding something. And guess who has their comments turned off on Instagram? Mr. Zach. Brian.

Jackson:

I love when I see a, like, really stupid advertisement for a company too. Like, to where, like, people would be like that and they turn off their comments and you're like.

Like, you obviously know that this isn't gonna work as an advertisement and people would be calling you out. But if you don't have those comments on, you're like, we might sell a few anyway with the Zach Bryan, Brianna chicken fry thing, it's just. It is.

It sucks because he's a.

He's a very talented artist, but again, with all of that talent and like, functioning at a different capacity than other people, I do think it comes with this kind of like, they're not going to be normal in their everyday life. They're not gonna function like a normal person. They're not gonna. Their brain is wired differently.

It's also like the Tom Brady thing, you know, It's. It's. It's a. It's a weird thing to watch.

Sonny:

And this. This isn't an excuse.

Jackson:

No, but it's.

Sonny:

But it's being brought into the picture. He lost his mom when he was young, so he grew up momless, which is obviously a terrible thing.

Jackson:

And like. But that would explain his. His attitude towards women. He didn't have a strong woman role model to, you know.

Sonny:

Yeah, but like, that's thing, like, it might. It might explain that reason, but it.

Jackson:

Doesn'T give an excuse.

Sonny:

Yeah, it's not an excuse to. Yeah, like, I watched him. I watched him on Rogan and, you know, he sat down for three hours.

And I gotta be honest, even watching him doing Rogan, he just felt like, young, like, mentally young. And I think he's 27, 26, like a year maybe. He's around our age.

Jackson:

Is he. Yeah. Is he my age?

Sonny:

But, like, just the conversation and the way he talked and.

Jackson:

Oh, he's your age.

Sonny:

Okay. 28.

Jackson:

Yeah.

Sonny:

And I felt like he felt nervous, which. Which would make sense for your first interview on Rogan know, the biggest podcast in the world, but that entire conversation, it just, he. I just.

I mean, I will say I think this was the grain of Salt. It's a 28 year old talking about another 28 year old. But it just, he sounded a little immature.

And then all this, you know, obviously popped off and it's like, oh, okay. Seems like he is.

Jackson:

I will say if you and I had a love child, it might come out looking like Zach Bryant. I was like Brian for.

Sonny:

I was him for Halloween.

Jackson:

Like, I'm like, you look like. I mean, you, you looked really a lot like him in that picture. And like, you're obviously more blonde than me.

I mean, I don't know, we're about the same, I guess. But the. But like the width of his head is like my width of my head and then like hit your jawline, you know, I mean, like, I'm.

I'm just thinking about this right now. This is just. I mean, again, we're very pro Brianna. We're very pro women on this podcast. So that is a.

Sonny:

We are hashtag Team Brie at this moment. I don't, I don't really see that changing.

Jackson:

I don't see that changing like anytime soon at all. What if.

Sonny:

What is that?

Jackson:

Here's, here's what I propose. Let's all just stream his music illegally for the next like, year and put a pin in that.

And then like, if he starts to change his ways and become a better person and actually put things into place to where he is working on himself and being.

Trying to be a better person, maybe goes on an apology tour, that sort of thing, then we can start streaming it through like Spotify and Apple Music again. But I think like, maybe, I don't know.

Sonny:

Okay, so my, my two cents on. I think how like his team is gonna kind of play it out and almost like if.

I don't want to say, if I was in that position, like, what I would encourage, I would. I think he's gonna go dark anyways. I think this was his last tour. No matter what.

I think he was going to take a break from music and kind of just a halt from Turing. He's always going to write, he's always going to be a songwriter, but I don't think he's going to be a, you know, tour every single year.

Like he, he was handing out $12 million to shut someone up. Like, he's doing okay. I think a lot of people are like me and you in this situation. We like Zach Brian with that country music If. Even if you don't.

Yeah, I. I actually don't.

Jackson:

I mean, here's the thing. Go watch our 35 episodes before this.

Sonny:

That's true. Yeah. We did interviews, but I don't.

Jackson:

Huge country music artist fans.

Sonny:

I don't label him as a country artist. A lot of people do. He's, like, more bulky, like Americana. Yeah, Yeah.

I think a lot of people are me, like you and I in this situation where, you know, it's. It was a weekend, so it's like, let's blast some tunes. And like, Zach Brian comes on. Here's like, I'm not.

Jackson:

I'm.

Sonny:

I'm not feeling it now.

Jackson:

Yeah. You know what I mean? For like a day. Drinking day or like, things like that.

Sonny:

And I think eventually, time heals all wounds. All wounds?

Jackson:

Yes.

Sonny:

Time heals all wounds. Zach Brian might essentially eventually sound better, but the big curve is, you know, with the songwriter. He is.

He's going to eventually write about the situation. We don't know what situation, but the situation. So when he drops that. I mean, he just dropped new music. But that.

There was no way that was, like, a response. That next album, I think people are fishing for, okay, what song sounds like it's tying into the Brie situation. Like, how is that going to turn?

And then also, I'm just very curious to see how the whole barstool thing goes, because eventually there's going to be lawyers involved, and it's just. It's might hit the fan, but who knows what that looks like?

Jackson:

Well, didn't he, like, I don't know, like, do, like, just controlling behavior through the whole thing? Okay, another thing I propose, and I will offer this right here, right now. Brianna Chicken Fry has a podcast. She has a platform to do all this stuff.

He's taking a step away from music. I will offer the chance for him to come onto our podcast and explain. Just explain. Just explain his side. I haven't heard anything from him.

If he wants to come on and explain and he can explain all of the NDAs that he send out before. That's the. That's the stipulation. He has to explain every NDA that he sent out to not. I don't care about, like. Like, people that worked with him.

I mean, I do if they were. If it was bad enough, but I mean, like. Like the NDAs of women he dated. I also will open it up to. And I bet Brianna Chicken Fry is gonna do this.

So, like, this isn't as important for those women, because I bet she'll Give them a. Or at least help in that, you know, area.

Sonny:

She can't because they have NDAs, but I see what you're saying, but, yes.

Jackson:

Well, if you want to come break your NDA on this podcast, then come on. Like, I think we can have multiple. I get. I think we can have, like, up to, like, six people on stage at a time. We will.

We will bring them all on, and they can confront Zach Bryant on this podcast. Should keep sharing this podcast. Zach. Brian, if you want to come on and explain yourself in a.

In a completely civil manner, we are not going to attack you. We won't do anything like that. But we will ask you clarifying questions on the whole situation. We just want to hear your side of things.

Again, we are pro Brianna Chicken Fry, but we are Team Bray all the way.

Sonny:

But I think if. Go ahead.

Jackson:

No, no, no. Go ahead. You said if.

Sonny:

No, if.

You know, in a magical world where this would happen, I think I would have to, you know, shave my face, do the mustache, wear the coat, and dress just like him. So I think, you know, it'd be Zach Brian kind of interrogating Zach Brian. Okay, you can be Brianna Chicken Fry.

Jackson:

I don't know if I'm gonna do that. I would. I. I probably will just be me interviewing him on that and interrogating him. Not even really interviewing, because I don't.

Like, I can go anywhere and find you. But here's the other thing. We're not a Rogan. We're not a. We're not a. That's what you're not a Barstool.

Sonny:

I think that's what you're trying to do, though. You're Rogan, you know, obviously interviewed Trump and was like, I'm here for Kamala, too.

And, you know, like, trying to work it out with her team as well. That's what we're trying to do. We're just trying to see both sides.

Jackson:

We're just trying to see both sides before. Before everybody, you know, like. Yeah, I don't know. I mean, before he ships off to Paris and goes to college to ignore his issues.

Let's get him on the podcast like the rest of us. Yeah, like the rest of us would. I'm not saying, like, yeah. So, like, there's obviously human side to him. Let's appeal to that. Like, come on.

I mean, it might not be.

Sonny:

Because, honestly, when I heard about him, he. He posts a lot about dogs in the first place. When I heard about him kicking Miss Peaches Portnoy's dog out of his dressing room.

Like, I, you know, we weren't there. Don't know the circumstance, but just the generalization of that story. Kicking. Kicking any dog.

You're a musician, you're friends with a musician, you hear about that human kicking a dog out of their dressing room. So like, was it the hair? Like they didn't have a limp brush? Like, what's going on?

Jackson:

I had, I had heard that part through the grapevine. I didn't know that that was through his. Out of his dressing room. I thought it was out of his recording studio.

And I was like, well, I mean, I guess I could see if the guy was making noise, but if it wasn't the recording studio, if it was just the dressing room, I do find that to be shitty.

Sonny:

And he also had his own. His. So his band is like, I don't know, probably maybe 10 people max.

Jackson:

Yeah.

Sonny:

And he has his own dressing room, which I kind of see. I kind of get that, but I also kind of don't because the image they're portraying is like, they are all bros. They're her family. Because I'm.

I don't know who has been really consists of. I'm sure there's females on there that kick ass. So one big happy family of bandmates. But I don't know, like separate dressing rooms. Like, if.

If you, me and Tyler had a band legend knowns, you never know, it might happened. I don't want my own dressing room. No, like, you know, like, it's. It's us.

Jackson:

Yeah, it's the three of us. Yeah, but he's.

Sonny:

Does Bruce Springsteen share a dressing room with his band that is, you know. Does. What. What's her Gwen Stefani share? Like, probably not. You know what I mean? So it's like, okay, I.

I see that backlash and I kind of understand it, but then I also kind of see.

Jackson:

But I would see us being more like a motley crew sort of where we're all just like, like, yeah, whatever. We'll just. We just need one room.

Sonny:

Yeah, yeah. But it's. I don't know, it's a. It's an interesting situation. I. It's. I don't know who's on his team. I know where he's signed to, which is Warner.

I don't know. It's just the biggest red flag is always those Instagram comments. Once those are off, it's like you're trying to hide something.

Jackson:

That's such a big. But I mean, the other big red flag is the amount of NDAs that have been like, yeah, I mean, you know what I mean?

Like, the amount of NDAs, like, I've. I don't know, like, I feel like 0NDAs is a cool number of like, you know, like, hey, like. Yeah, I don't know, I just. It's.

It almost removes an authentic. Like, what are you hiding? What are you trying to hide that you need to get rid of this information? You know what I mean?

Like, it's like if you walked around someone shredding a bunch of documents, like frantically and you were like, what are you doing? And you're like, oh, nothing, don't worry about it. Can you sign this piece of paper real quick?

Sonny:

Like that is probably the biggest red flag, you know, out of the things did. Were you able to see Smallest man, the music video? I didn't see a song with Portnoy and Josh. His name's Josh Richards. Richards.

Jackson:

Richards. Yeah.

Sonny:

Okay. I know he's a tick tock guy. I only know about him from the BFF podcast.

Jackson:

Yeah, I didn't see it, but I've. I've seen a bunch of like the memes about. It's.

Sonny:

It's pretty funny and it's. I saw the full thing before I got pulled. Pretty funny. Good lyrics though. They didn't write the lyrics, but I mean, you know, it's fine.

It's a diss track.

Jackson:

Oh, here, I have it here, I can share it.

Sonny:

Will it play?

Jackson:

Yeah.

Sonny:

Okay.

Jackson:

Yeah, this is it.

Speaker D:

I said trust me. Trust me. Cut your pits on fire, Tinder bubble. Ryan knew you was a liar. You up? It's about to get. Corey, go and post it on your Instagram story.

Sonny:

Yeah.

Speaker D:

You say you remember everything? I guess not. Cause you forgot about your wedding ring. This ain't a subtweet. I ain't coming Subliminal.

You're great at being country without the second syllable. My fist plus your face simple addition the way you did it wrong man it's sickening.

Imma kick your dick in to give you an adult circumcision Think we in Kentucky where I fry you like some chicken but yo from okay, well, okay if you say so Kind of ironic cause soon you're getting this K.O. you're shorter than me so sorry if it's a low blow I'm about to turn this place to an Oklahoma smoke show. Hazy B, why you handing out these stds?

Jackson:

These girls is itchy and they teen really quick. This is, this goes hard.

Sonny:

That's so. That's three songs of his they've already referenced and we're a minute 18 into this five minute, 20 second song.

Jackson:

Yeah. So far, the writing on this is unmatched.

Sonny:

Oh, it's.

Jackson:

I mean, this is like a Kendrick Drake diss track.

Sonny:

And they said they made, like, they made this before, obviously, like, Brianna came out and, like, spoke about everything. So this was all the stuff that they were pulling from was stuff that already happened. Like, already publicly happened.

Jackson:

Okay. So. Well, I mean, I was. I was just wondering if she was maybe telling them about this stuff before she went public.

Sonny:

No, this was all before they learned what we learned.

Jackson:

Oh, gotcha.

Sonny:

Because so what happened was Bri was in. In between taking the 12 million or not. And it sounds like that thought and, you know, question is whether. Whether or not she should do it.

Which would be a kind of an easy answer for me, but took a little longer than expected. And she said, like, she was like, yeah, I'll do the 12 million.

And then on CB side, the lawyers kind of screwed the pooch and, like, took too much time or, like, started, you know, saying, all right, it's only gonna be 10 or, like, whatever. So it took more time. And then she was like, you. Like, I'm not taking this $12 million.

Once she came to the realization, like, I'm not taking the money. F. The money, she texted Dave and Jake, Josh, Drake and Josh. Josh, like, zb. Like, I'm not taking his money.

And then, like, essentially they were like, all right, like, let's do this. Like, let's make the district.

Jackson:

So they. Okay, okay. So once she was like this. I'm not taking the 12 million. They released it.

Sonny:

They. I think, like, they went to work on it. Like, they had this idea and then they went to work on it.

Jackson:

Okay, gotcha. I mean, so far. Love it so far.

Sonny:

So it's great.

Speaker D:

That's what you mean? They're asking doctors for their expertise. All they say is that gonna make you burn, burn, burn Gonna eat so many.

Jackson:

Freeze.

Speaker D:

Rest in peace. If you ever try to mess with me I'm coming at you with more arms than a centipede looking for pink guys.

But now you're seeing stars there's something in the orange and it's you behind these bars. I would get back my truck right now if you let me out of these handcuffs.

Sonny:

If you.

Speaker D:

If you don't, it's going to be a mistake, sir, I promise. Get back in your truck or go to jail.

Jackson:

I don't care which.

Speaker D:

I go to jail. I will. I will have said, Trust me. Knew you was a liar, douchebag. You just made a new rival. Pretty soon you going to need a revive. Trust me.

Caught your piss on fire. Tinder Bumble Rya. Knew you was a liar. You fucked up. It's about to get gory. Go and post it on your Instagram story.

Speaker E:

Itty bitty Zach.

Speaker D:

Shitty shitty tats.

Speaker E:

Ugly in the face. There's no chill for that country singing boss. Baby, get that boy a snack. Throw another temper tantrum. It's time for a nap.

ram story. Apologizing like a:

Sonny:

Brian.

Speaker E:

I know all this shit's deep. Bet your ride profile said that you were six feet. From the looks of all your tweets, I say you gotta booze from such an alcoholic.

Alcohol has a huge problem. Zach is awake. I know that he's been drinking. It looks like a Lego hair like Homer Simpson. This is for the women that you cheated and neglected.

Music is infectious. Your penis is infected. You give out STDs and then you start to spiral. Sack, that's not what we mean by going viral.

If you meet another girl off an Instagram caption, I hope they know that feelings aren't the only thing they're catching. Little evil face tried to split up Green Grace your old styles Morgan Tyler Chill copy paste. You think that you're hard.

Jackson:

I will say I was a huge. I mean I am still a huge Tyler Chillers fan.

Sonny:

He's the man.

Jackson:

He is the best. And if. And I think he was. He's always been better than Zach Bryan. Because I found Zach Bryan secondary. Like after.

Sonny:

Yeah, he opened the door. He opened the door for artists. I mean Tyler opened the door for a lot of artists. But I would say Zach Bryan falls under that umbrella for sure.

Jackson:

Yeah. And he definitely followed that like path. So I huge Tyler Chillers fan. If you like Zach Bryant, just switch to Tyler Childers brother. It's so easy.

It's like going from American spirits yellows to light blues. It's fine. They're pretty much the same. And if. Yeah. So just. But he does look like a Lego. All right. We're continuing.

Speaker E:

All in adultery. Don't take accountability for anything you did. Can't blame you. Just a 30 old kid. Never seen someone so scared of what the people say.

Would have thought that NDAs were your DNA. Too drunk a fed way Sack.

Jackson:

God damn.

Speaker E:

Even Noah knows you're the Real con man. Do consider this a warning for the next girl that dates you.

Speaker D:

We know for a fact that your whole band hates you Thought you had.

Speaker E:

Some hard me and Josh frozen always.

Speaker D:

Been a loser now the whole world knows Trust me knew you was a liar douchebag you just made a new rival Pretty soon you going to need a revive. Trust me got your p on fire knew you was a liar. You up? It's about to get gory going. Post it on your Instagram story.

I mean, we should have known first signs who picks pony over Taylor?

Speaker E:

He's 52 man's five two kick peaches out of dresser.

Speaker D:

Smallest man who ever lived. You already know we're smoking on that ZB hat all night long.

Speaker E:

72 hats still bald as needs to.

Speaker D:

Go fix his hairline. Send him to turkey head ass. How lucky is br to be free of Z?

Sonny:

So they used six of his songs in the lyrics and then mocked a seventh, obviously at the end. And I think the song they mocked was. I mean, they came out when Brie and him were dating. So it sounded like when he put it out, like the.

The song of that story was about the relationship. So which.

Jackson:

Which song was that one?

Sonny:

I gotta sing it. Do I? I gotta sing it to remember it. Yeah. Still can't get it, but it goes. How lucky are we? It's been a hell of a week. We're all grown now.

Jackson:

28.

Sonny:

Yep.

Jackson:

Yeah.

Sonny:

So like, as a dis track, I mean, that thing.

Jackson:

That thing went hard.

Sonny:

It was hard. But. And here's the thing that I love that they essentially called out on the diss track.

Zach, before all this happened, went online and would apologize for everything. Apologize for everything. Like, just trying to please everyone and every crowd.

Like, even if it was the smallest thing, it's just like, dude, who cares? Like, stop caring about. Like you weren't at this point, like, you are an icon right now. Like, you are on top of the industry. You were killing it.

Stop apologizing for these little small gimmicks. Like you like somewhere like. Like one. Like you didn't walk around saying some slur. But obviously this is different. And he's been.

He's going to be quiet on socials. I feel like would imagine at least that's what his team is telling him.

Jackson:

But barstool actually comes out with a lot of fire content. Like specifically this diss track. And then the. I forget which one interviewed him. It was the two. What is it, like Lenny Balls or what's his name?

Sonny:

Was it the Sunday show with Morgan Wallen. Yeah, Glennie. And, like, Glennie.

Jackson:

I called him Lenny. Glennie Balls. And Caleb Press. Caleb. Caleb. Caleb. Okay. And during the interview, he pulls out his card, and he goes, this is my favorite card.

I call it my Morgan Wallen card. And he goes, what? And he's like, yeah, it's canceled, but for some reason, it still works.

And for that, like, forever, like, Caleb is top tier in my mind.

Sonny:

He's. I mean, his. His brain when it comes to comedy is insane.

Jackson:

Unmatched.

Sonny:

Yeah, it's insane.

Jackson:

No one like him. All right, well, I mean, did we.

Sonny:

Just do an episode on one subject.

Jackson:

That was literally one entire subject? And again, this is not our story to tell. So, like, don't take everything we said as the end all, be all. Definitely. Do your own research.

Make your own decisions.

Sonny:

I disagree. This is scripture. Write it down. Bury it in your backyard.

Jackson:

Yeah. Someone engraved this. We definitely watched the full episode. I have to go finish the episode. I saw clips from it.

I didn't watch the full episode, but, yes, it. It is a. We are Team Brie all the way. I mean, how could you not? I mean, she's. She seems so fun. You know what I mean? To be around, like, in this, like.

And it seems like he really, like, this relationship really took a toll on her, and it, like. And it broke her down to, like, be not her. And I don't think that that's cool to do to somebody, to take, you know, someone with, like, such a.

Like a beautiful heart to then kind of break them down to be like.

Sonny:

You just think she's a babe.

Jackson:

No, I mean, not. I mean, yeah, she is. Don't get me wrong. But I'm saying, like, someone who just seems like a cool person to then turn them into a shell of that.

You know what I mean? I don't think that that's cool because I've seen that happen to friends of mine in relationships that like.

And it's hard when you're close to a friend that's in a relationship like that, and you go. You can't really say anything because you're like, what if they get back together? What if they. You know what I mean?

You don't really want to weigh in on that.

But, I mean, I feel like I've been in relationships that have done that to me, and then you kind of have to spend the next year recovering from that or, you know, however long that takes. However, that long. And that's not an easy toll for anyone. And I wouldn't wish that on anybody. So our, you know, we stand. We are team Brie.

Sonny:

We. We are a positive relationship podcast.

However, Zach, if you want to come and explain yourself like, like I said, it'll be ZB interviewing zb and then Jackson will be in the corner as dressed as Brie.

Jackson:

I won't be dressed as Bray as a chicken.

Sonny:

You'll be a chicken tender.

Jackson:

Yeah, yeah. I'll have to be a chicken tender. I'm not thin enough to be a chicken fry.

Sonny:

We should be a chicken nugget.

Jackson:

I give you a chicken nugget. Yeah, but. Yeah, I just. Yeah, just so. It's disappointing. And another thing for if Zach. Brian does come on, we will not go easy on him.

We will not let him off the hook. Keep that in mind, Zach. But we won't attack you. We will. We will hear you out. But we might not agree with you.

Sonny:

Probably so. And we might also probably sing your lyrics in the incorrect tune and verbiage as well.

Jackson:

Yeah. And we'll just hold you hostage while we do it.

Sonny:

Yeah.

Jackson:

Then that's your punishment. You have to listen to us sing your songs. Like intentionally bad.

Sonny:

Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. And like this, you know, this is what you get for kicking a dog out, is what you get for everything that happened with Brie.

Jackson:

Yeah. Treating women poorly for the women before. Come on the show. Let's have some fun.

Sonny:

Yeah, it'd be a good time.

Jackson:

On that note, I mean, I don't think this, I think this, this podcast needed to be the entire episode.

Sonny:

I know. We just. We don't do that usually.

Jackson:

We don't. We. We don't normally have at least like three different, like, like topics with subtopics.

Sonny:

But, but also just in general, our brains go from.

Jackson:

This is the one time I've seen us so locked in on one topic though.

And I'm very, I'm very happy because I do think that this needed to like, you know, I know that like Barstool is dragging his name right now and they have a bunch of content out about it, articles and all that stuff. But it doesn't hurt to have more content out there.

Sonny:

Yeah. And also I'm like, I wouldn't label us as. Because so Dave called the BFF podcast like a gossip podcast. I wouldn't label us as gossipers.

I, I don't care about.

I mean, obviously this is coming after we spent 56 minutes talking about other humans lives, but I really don't care about what other people do in their lives. I'm only talking about it because he was my favorite artist and I'm around.

Jackson:

The industry and watching an artist like that fall from grace, yeah, I do think is something. So, like, if anything, we're like current events slash hot takes podcast plus plus.

Sonny:

Helen Colors of fraud.

Jackson:

Yeah, I guess that was our hottest.

Sonny:

Take, even though we both declined it. And at the end of the day, we said she wasn't.

Jackson:

Well, I said. I did say that she was, but I don't want to get off. I don't want to get off topic on this episode, but I go watch it.

I did say I don't think she was a fraud. I think Anne Sullivan was maybe more of the fraud in that. And I do think it wasn't for a bad reason because it did advocate for disability rights.

Anyway, again, we are very team Bree here, and we look forward to hearing a response from Zach's lawyers or. Well, not lawyers. Don't. Not the lawyers. Zach's team. We want.

We would like to hear back from Zach's team and hopefully he takes us up on this and we will. We will talk. We'll have a conversation about it. Yeah, yeah. Two Zacks and a chicken nugget. On that note, we will see you all next week.

Sonny:

Bye.

Speaker D:

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Jackson has been an active performer throughout his local community in over 40 theatre programs. He Started at iO (formerly Improv Olympic) in 2016 and completed the Improv A-E Program at The Second City in 2019. After that, he became a founding member of Twisted Lime Improv Group and performed as a regular with InSync 90s Improv Group at The Second City. Jackson, Tyler, and Sonny Visione started Untied Entertainment in 2020.